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Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly (#753)

Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly on The Tim Ferriss Show podcast! The post Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly (#753) appeared first on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss.


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Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly (#753)
Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly (#753)

This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode “Derek Sivers on Developing Confidence, Finding Happiness, and Saying No to Millions” and “Interview of Kevin Kelly, Co-Founder of WIRED, Polymath, Most Interesting Man In The World?

Please enjoy!

Bios of guests may be found at tim.blog/combo.

Listen to the episode on Apple PodcastsSpotifyOvercastPodcast AddictPocket CastsCastbox, YouTubeYouTube MusicAmazon MusicAudible, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Transcript for the full Derek Sivers episode | Transcript for the full Kevin Kelly episode | Transcripts for all episodes

#753: Derek Sivers and Kevin Kelly

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What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SHOW NOTES

  • [05:47] Notes about this supercombo format.
  • [06:50] Enter Derek Sivers.
  • [07:20] From pig show busker to circus ringleader.
  • [10:42] Derek’s framework for developing confidence.
  • [13:05] “The standard pace is for chumps.”
  • [18:51] Relaxing for the same result.
  • [24:01] The origins of “HELL YEAH! or no.”
  • [26:25] “Busy” implies a life out of control.
  • [28:03] What inspired the automation of CD Baby?
  • [33:22] Derek’s billboard.
  • [34:32] Good advice at any age: “Don’t be a donkey.”
  • [40:24] Enter Kevin Kelly.
  • [41:02] Kevin’s biggest regret.
  • [43:13] Finding contentment in minimalism and “voluntary simplicity” without starving to death.
  • [50:33] Kevin’s epiphany when he embraced writing as a late bloomer.
  • [56:40] Why Kevin promised himself he would never resort to teaching English while traveling abroad.
  • [59:07] Finding purpose through resilience and the creator’s dilemma.
  • [1:06:50] Why the appeal of being a billionaire is overrated.
  • [1:11:05] Middle-aged optimization.
  • [1:15:28] Realizations following a “six months until death” challenge.
  • [1:20:08] Kevin’s Kickstarter-funded project linking angels and robots.
  • [1:22:41] Why a self-proclaimed ex-hippie waited until his 50th birthday to try LSD for the first time.
  • [1:28:43] Why a population implosion is probable in the next 100 years.
  • [1:36:05] The greatest gift you can give to your child.
  • [1:38:21] The criteria for Amish technology assimilation.
  • [1:45:03] What technology-free sabbaticals can do for you.
  • [1:48:53] Long Now Foundation’s vision of a better civilization.
  • [1:53:33] The graphic novel teaching young people how to become indispensable.
  • [1:54:52] An antidote to misguided “follow your passion” advice.
  • [1:56:44] Kevin’s favorite fiction book.
  • [1:59:15] The resource Kevin compiled for documentary lovers.
  • [2:02:47] A name Kevin considers synonymous with “success” (and why success is overrated).
  • [2:05:46] What Kevin would change about himself.
  • [2:07:59] Daily rituals.
  • [2:10:44] How Kevin accumulated enough books to fill a two-story library.
  • [2:15:19] How Adam Savage from MythBusters transformed Kevin’s method of organization.
  • [2:17:14] The project everyone should undertake at least once in life.
  • [2:19:30] Does discovery equal invention?
  • [2:20:12] Kevin’s advice to his younger self.
  • [2:23:16] Parting thoughts.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Derek Sivers:

Website | Podcast | Twitter | YouTube

Connect with Kevin Kelly:

Website | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube

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