is getting honest about where she stands with ex-husband .
“We don’t speak anymore,” Moakler, 49, told People in a new profile published Monday, June 24. “I don’t have a relationship with Travis, but I think that’s OK. I don’t feel like it’ll be like that forever, but I feel like right now — I think that’s where we are at in our evolution, and maybe in the future, it’ll change.”
Despite the possibility of eventually being on speaking terms with Barker, the former beauty queen went on to tell the outlet that she “just” doesn’t “care about her exes at the moment.”
(Moakler dated from 1997 to 2000, and was married to Barker, 48, from 2004 to 2008. She shares daughter Atiana, 25, with the legendary boxer, and son Landon, 20, and daughter Alabama, 18, with the Blink-182 drummer.)
“I know I’m talking about it here with you — and I really can’t do anything without talking about it — because it’s just kind of stuck with me, which is fine,” Moakler, whose parents and died in 2023, continued. “But I really care more about just healing from the loss of my family and my support system, and just really trying to find out what my next move in life is. I’m an empty nester and turning 50, and I’m just trying to find my place in the world again without my parents or a partner.”
Moakler gained widespread fame amid her relationship with Barker, which was documented on MTV’s Meet the Barkers. The series aired for two seasons beginning in 2005. Though the couple finalized their divorce in 2008, Barker’s next high-profile romance didn’t come until he and longtime friend took their relationship to the next level in early 2021.
The couple got engaged in October that year, and Barker’s romantic proposal was featured on season 1 of Hulu’s The Kardashians. The following April, the duo exchanged vows in Las Vegas; however, the ceremony was not legal, as they did not have a marriage certificate at the time.
“We just did it anyway,” the Poosh founder, 45, explained on an episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live! at the time. “It’s what’s in the heart.”
In May 2022, Kardashian and Barker tied the knot in a lavish three-day celebration in Portofino, Italy, in front of close friends and family, including Blink-182 bandmate , longtime collaborator and his then-fiancée , , , and more.
The pair welcomed their son, Rocky Thirteen, in November last year. Kardashian also shares three children with ex : sons Mason, 14, and Reign 9, and daughter Penelope, 12.